go aren't. >> host: that came up with education and to leverage education. like a goalie and that has a lot of wealth to bridge the gap but to see the grass greener on the other side or to influence of the country's future and then black-market business, drugs , and arms being the of fuel. >> the single biggest motivator that i saw was predictability but if you have a city with people moving and selling them that goes on for generations with those people settle you end up with the horse shoe shaped or ring of territory where there is no officers of slums not to allow the presence people are excluded from the mainstream of the economy of politics and there was a time after 9/11 we would talk about when governed spaces like if there is no government presence but talk about the slums of africa they're not uncovered that all they are thoroughly governed because what happens when that happens the role they play is like the police force were then tear restore insurgents the jamaican in drug smuggling gang we got them into mortar and rocket the city within kingston